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I believe many of you might have already saw the news about the Nick Simmons incidents involving his comicbook Incarnate, and the popular manga Bleach.

If not here's a good place to start
[link]


Here's my thoughts, personally I am so disappointed that someone who call himself an artist and somemore a son of an artist( I consider singers as artists too) do such a disgraceful thing. And equally disappointing publishing house with all their in-house editors and art directors to that allow that to happen, and in the words of the publishing house president...

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“Incarnate is a project that is very close to me,” stated Radical Publishing President and Publisher Barry Levine. “As a rock photographer, I have worked very closely with Gene Simmons and the members of KISS. Since I’ve known him, Gene has always had a passion for comics and has passed that down to his son Nick. After seeing Nick’s concept for Incarnate and the quality of his designs and panels, I immediately felt that this was a great fit for Radical.”

I guess one shall be able to suspect some strings pulling were involved or someone is trying to play off the reputation of the other.

Further still, I read through a few comic reviews sites, and they disappoint me even more, for several of them actually fail to spot the similarities, and gave the book glowing reviews. Someone told me that those reviewers shallnt be blame for not being a fan of japanese manga and thus shall not be blame, but in my opinion, to be really unbias as a reviewer, one must set a side personal favorism and be at least knowledgeable in related field, for example Bleach is not some average and relatively unknown manga, it is one of the more famous one around.

I definitely take note of how this incident turn out, for it is definitely an important case for people working in the industry like us. (Who wants another rich kid going around tracing our hardwork and publishing it as theirs)

oh by the way, here's the dA page of guy in question :iconletsleepinggodslie:

how ironical that he even had this line in his first journal

"If you steal my artwork, you will pay. In cash.
Spank you very much and good night."
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:iconchizek:
ohh, one more thing came to mind... I bet if I were to trace a Bleach comic and get it published; I would get sued, not by the Bleach publishers, but by Nick S. xD
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:iconchizek:
Doing parody is probably the only way you can get away with drawing very similar characters, poses, and scenes.

Maybe he just sucks so badly at parody that we just don't get it =P

I have a reference folder full of art works (I save it with the artist's name/alias) and use it to gain reference for poses, colour, etc. The only time I "copy" is if I'm practicing different styles or if there is a cool accessory!

As for doing a very similar plot, story, or scene... only if its a parody =P I love to challenge myself by brainstorming new ideas every week =D
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:iconuntitledspy:
That's pretty sucky. I also feel sorry for =Rtalon235 who bought it for their daughter completely unaware of the plagerism and then begins to get flamed by hundreds of random people for buying it. Which is pretty uncool. Boy is Nick going to get his ass burnt for that move, it's just too obvious that it was copied, and from more then one manga too. I still can't believe it got as far as it did.
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=SketchProof Feb 27, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I like how I was reading about the scandal on this website [link] and they go ahead and turn the subject around defending Nick by bringing up copyrighting. Basically saying how us fans are downloading manga, and other shit and telling us that we are just as guilty of doing something bad. Man, fuck that! That isn't even the god damned issue. The issue is that there is someone out there getting credibility for something they didn't do on their own and trying to make profit from it.

The thing that pisses me off even more is the fact that he is the son of a celebrity and and the stupid publishers went through with the comic just to kiss ass for Gene Simmons. Because they knew that if people found out about Gene's sons comic, that it would get marketed like crazy and they would get a lot of sales from it. Not only that, but it also pisses me off that they would publish such crap quality Nick calls art, whether if it was copied or not, it still looks terrible. And we all know how the comic industry is. If an artist wants to break through, the storytelling through illustration has to look professional and also read well to the viewers. And none of that was applied correctly.

The people trying to defend this loser are overlooking the bigger issue, trying to bring up other shit to try and justify his actions. I won't feel sorry at all to whatever happens to him. He knew he was trying to get away with something he didn't have his heart truly in. This was just a half-ass excuse to get his name out there.
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*Luches Feb 27, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
hahaha the case of the pot calling the kettle black, all those people never realised that by supporting this kind of copying, it is indirectly bringing down the downfall of the industry, by rather supporting the thieves than the creators.

Ya that is what pissed most people off, because of for the sake of money, the resorted to such move, furthermore they even had a large launch party for him.

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~Komikino Feb 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Here's the irony...
There is a local classic rock radio show that has an awesome comedy morning show. On this show, the DJs make some parody songs based off of popular songs (the parody songs are called Twisted Tunes). This group had permission from Gene Simmons to do a parody of the Kiss song "I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night". The parody song was titled "I Used to Rock and Roll All Night" and is pretty damn sweet. You can find it here: [link] Look under Twisted Tunes> I> I Used to Rock and Roll All Night. Now, the Bob Rivers morning crew has an awesome band that can imitate any band they do parodies of to a T! They are that good... and pretty damn funny. When the song was finished and Gene had a chance to listen to it, he almost sued the radio show because it sounded too much like him and Kiss. It took a lot of sweet talking from the DJs to get him to change his mind. Funny thing is that Gene gave them permission to do the parody song. :)
Now his kid is copying and hacking pages and panel layouts straight out of Bleach and saying things like: "If you steal my artwork, you will pay. In cash." (from his first journal post). Maybe he should talk to good ol' dad about plagiarism.
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*Luches Feb 27, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Maybe someone is thinking that the USA fans are naive enough to let it pass
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:iconfunkyjam175:
i fond it incredible that someone can trace the works from another artist and post it as their own! not sure how he can really sleep at night! this is repulsive at best! and that someone would be ignorant enough to publish it!!!! :fork:
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*Luches Feb 27, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
even more amazing how it is even published, launch at San Diego comic con, got past all the reviewers without getting spotted.

But in the end, his cover was blown by someone on Gamefaqs (amazing it is not even a manga fanclub of bleach who discovered it)
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